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S2, Episode 2: GayWakening Movies. The Mummy, Road to El Dorado and others!

Maria and Neva Season 2 Episode 2

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In Season 2 of the Lost Girls Podcast, hosts Neva and Maria delve into their experiences with media that they describe as having ignited their queer awakenings. They discuss a variety of movies, characters, and themes, reflecting on the complex feelings that arose during their formative years relating to sexual orientation and identity. The podcast highlights how cultural representations in film, particularly during the late 90s and early 2000s, impacted their understanding of sexuality, gender, and self. From discussing specific films like “The Mummy” and “Aladdin,” to exploring themes of gender identity in “Mulan,” the hosts share personal narratives that illustrate their journeys and societal perceptions of queerness.

Highlights

  • 🎬 “The Mummy” has become a cultural beacon for queer awakening, inspiring countless fans to identify with its characters.
  • 🌈 The concept of being “half-gay” reflects the struggles of bisexual identity in a binary world.
  • 🎭 Disney films, particularly “Aladdin” and “Pocahontas,” were influential in shaping discussions around femininity, strength, and attraction to female characters.
  • 🦸‍♀️ Mulan’s journey resonates with those questioning gender and identity while navigating familial expectations.
  • 👑 The significance of strong female characters in media is emphasized, particularly their relationships and independence.
  • 🌍 The hosts reflect on the idea that media produced during their coming-of-age years often contained unspoken queer themes.

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00:00
 Hi friends! Hello friends! And hello friends listening! This is the Lost Girls Podcast, and I am one of your hosts, Neva. And I am your other host, Maria. Thank you for listening to us, and that is the smoothest intro we've ever done, and


00:29
 It's like we're total professionals now. Season two, bitches. We're here professionally now. So today we're talking about what I've just been calling the gay wakening.


00:45
 All right. I love that. Yeah. So basically movies, specifically movies that awakened the little queer in us and flamed it into a fire of gay as adults. Or at least was like, huh.


01:04
 That's an interesting feeling and I don't understand it. Yes. Yes. A lot of that. A lot of like, hmm, why am I feeling these things in my body that I can't connect to things in my brain? This makes no sense. I don't like it. I don't know what's happening. Yeah. And then you get older and you're like, oh, right.


01:29
 And you know, you're like in your late 20s because being gay was bad when you were a child. Yeah. It was. It was bad. It was bad. I'm like, I'm so distracted. Fucking dog is playing with a crinkle toy like right here. Oh, I can't hear it. Oh, that's good.


01:49
 Um, you know what I think confused me a lot, too, was I would have feelings and it wasn't just like, oh, I'm gay because I would also have feelings for male characters. Uh huh. Yeah. And like bisexual wasn't a thing that existed. Right. Yet. Yeah. It wasn't in the vernacular like gay was like, OK, you're gay. Mm hmm. But you were gay or you were straight. Right. There was no in between. In between like, oh, God, what's wrong with me? I like everybody. Right.


02:18
 Am I a whore? And then you like add in the religious trauma and you're like, oh, God, I'm a succubus from hell because I'm attracted to everyone. Jesus is punishing me. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of guilt around that. Oh, mine was mostly like and I still. Oh, my gosh. What is what is the singer's name? Oh, my gosh.


02:47
 I don't know. Elton John. That's his name. Oh, yes. He's pretty fabulous. He is. But I just very distinctly remember he was on the TV or on the news or something and my father making a very snide comment.


03:06
 that I didn't understand. And I can't remember what he said or what he called him, but I was like, what does that mean? And then he explained what he meant. And, you know, that made it pretty obvious that being gay was not okay. Same. Yeah. Trauma. Trauma. I know. I know. When I got older, and I don't know if this was like...


03:34
 Like trying to coax it out of me. But when I was like a teenager...


03:44
 he would start saying things like well you know if my kid was gay I would want to know because you know you can't really know your kid unless you know you know everything about them but it was like really we had a cousin who would come and stay with us over the summers and it was like very obvious from a very early age that he was very gay and his parents were very not okay with it and so when he was with us my dad would like try to encourage him to talk about it


04:14
 And he came out to us first, which was nice. Yeah. But I was always like, oh, I wonder if that applies to me.


04:26
 But I was like, well, it doesn't matter because I'm not really gay. I'm only half gay. So I was like, well, I guess there's nothing to tell. See, and I don't even think I realized when I was a teenager. Or I was so afraid of it. Like, I was hiding it from myself, if that makes sense. Oh, yeah. You just repress away. Because it was unsafe. Yeah, 100%.


04:56
 Yeah, it was unsafe with my mom for sure. I wouldn't have ever been able to mention anything to her. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Like, now that as an adult that my dad is gone, I look back and I'm like, I wonder if he always had...


05:15
 by polyam energy and was just never in a position to be able to express himself um which now like makes me really sad but happy that i get to but yeah no it wouldn't have been a safe space anyway yeah just trauma and religion and all of it


05:39
 Yeah, mine wasn't even, like, my family wasn't overly religious, I wouldn't say. Like, I went to church with my grandparents, but my dad never went to church. My mom did, but we weren't terribly religious, so that didn't really factor into it. It was more of a social...


06:02
 What would the neighbors think? Oh, yeah. That's more what it was for my mom, too. Yeah. It was like, oh, my God. I'm going to have to tell my friends. Daughters are gay. And then no grandkids. And do you want the men to think that you don't want them? Yeah. That's, like, exactly what I want, actually.


06:22
 I'd love it if they left me alone. Do you have an HBO Max subscription? Yes. Okay, have you watched Sex Lives of College Girls? Oh my god, it's so good. I haven't seen the new season, but I saw the first two.


06:38
 Okay, then I won't spoil anything. We finished the third season last night and just... Okay, I got to watch it. I saw it came out and I wanted to watch it. I was like, I just don't have the mental headspace because I would have to start at the beginning because I did not remember anything from the first two seasons. Yeah.


06:59
 And it's like, I just don't have the mental headspace for this right now. And so then a couple weeks ago or so, we restarted the series. And we finished season three last night. And it was really good. Oh, that's awesome. Of course, anytime Vico Ortiz comes on screen, I go, oh, Vico. Thank God. They are. I don't even have words from Vico Ortiz.


07:29
 just whoa it was like maria what's your ideal queer type whatever the fuck vika ortiz has going on them and their wife wow yep oh my goodness


07:50
 Holy shit. They were. Okay. So they were in the previous two seasons, but like in minor roles. And it wasn't until Our Flag Means Death that I was like, oh, damn. Yeah. I'm like, they look really familiar. And then I was like, oh, duh. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay. I really got to watch the third season of that. Yeah. Yeah.


08:13
 but all right should we jump into some of our queer wakenings uh yeah do you want to start with um the most well-known one yeah okay so i feel like we just have to address it up front because the amount of messages and comments and just conversations that i have had with my friends and we have had um so the 1999 classic


08:41
 Starring Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz. The Mummy.


08:45
 Like, there's so many memes. There's so many memes. I feel like it's, like, taken on a life of its own. Oh, it totally has. Like, outside of the movie. Yeah, like, just the meme where it's, like, Rick and Evie, and it's, like, these two raised a generation, and it's, like, of bisexuals. So accurate. I don't even remember the first time I watched The Mummy. It must have been college.


09:14
 Yeah, okay, so it came out in 1999, and I was a... No, it was the end of my freshman year of high school. I would have been in middle school still. Yeah. Like sixth grade. Nice. No, that can't be right. Hold on. You say the end of 99? Yeah, it was May 7th, 99.


09:37
 So I was like 7th grade. Okay. Oh wait, May 7th of 99? Yeah, it was the day before my birthday. The mummy is a Taurus. Okay, I was in 6th grade then. Jesus Christ.


09:52
 No, see, okay, this is what's funny about, like, people who are about my age, but, like, four or five years older, when I say things like, oh, that takes me back to middle school, and they're like, oh, that takes me back to high school. Takes me back to high school, yeah. The years don't seem so long when it's like, oh, college or whatever, but when it's middle school, high school, they seem huge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


10:16
 for sure um so yeah it came out when i was in high school i remember going to see it in high school being immediately obsessed um like deep like i was already obsessed with all things ancient egypt and hieroglyphs and i had like already started like writing my name and hieroglyphs i know this you you resonate with this too yep um yeah because we're fucking nerds this is just what we do


10:44
 Oh, yeah. I mean, is there anyone who doesn't think ancient Egypt is fascinating? I don't know. But if they are, I don't want to know. No, thanks. I don't need that negativity in my life. Like aliens totally help build the pyramids. I mean, 100 percent. Get out of here. 100 percent. For sure. This is like a recurring conversation I would have with my dad where my mom would be like, you two are crazy.


11:15
 I do enjoy watching shows where they try to use, like, tools that they had available at the time to build, like, miniature pyramids. And, like, it's cool. And I'm just like, hmm. Nah. It's not aliens, though.


11:34
 so whatever but yeah anyway um i also recently watched a video from a youtube channel called cinema therapy which is fucking rad okay um because it's a filmmaker and like a licensed professional therapist and they break i know so what is it called


11:52
 cinema therapy okay well i'm checking this out you have to it's so good and they do these companies like videos and they did the seven most healthy movie marriages i know so good and like morticia and gomez were on there because obviously and um the the couple from 101 dalmatians because they're like always i know


12:19
 Because they're always like showing up and supporting each other and they have each other's backs. And Rick and Evie were number one. They were like, this is the ultimate supportive relationship. But like also in the context of the mummy one and two. Yeah. They...


12:34
 After they've been married four years and have a child, they still manage to be super into each other, interested in each other's passions. They show up for each other. They have each other's backs. And it's like this kind of unbelievable support that you don't see built in to a lot of media where it's like the long lasting romance of marriage and what that looks like.


13:01
 And it's like, yeah, what a wonderful example they set for all of us. I love that. And just, you know, like those two actors, you know, outside of those characters in that movie.


13:17
 Right. They're both just perfect as humans. Yeah. Brendan Fraser couldn't get more lovable. Right. And Rachel Weisz is like every lesbian's dream. Yeah.


13:33
 She keeps doing fucking movies where she's gay and she keeps killing us. But it's like, even in the movie, it's not even just them. Yeah. Like, the mummy. Pretty hot. Once he gets his skin back, pretty hot. And... Anak Sunamun. Yeah. Yeah. Probably developed a kink for body paint for, like, a lot of people. Yeah.


14:00
 Just a lot of really hot people. Yeah, like everybody in that is top notch. Damn it, now I have to go watch The Mummy. What do you mean you have to? You get to. True, true. I like regularly rewatch one and two. It's so good. But yeah, it was amazing. And, uh...


14:29
 The Mummy. Raising a generation of bisexuals from 1999 on. Yep. For sure. I think a lot of people looked at that movie and went, all. All. And then didn't know what to do with it afterwards. Like, what do I do with this information? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, okay. Uh, Aladdin? Fuck yeah, Aladdin! I have, like, three Disney movies on my list.


14:59
 I love you so much. I went as Princess... Whatever year that movie came out, I went as Princess Jasmine for Halloween that year. That's the crop top and all.


15:14
 No. Mine was like fully covered. It had like flesh, you know, skin stuff. But there was also like three other jasmines in my grade. That's awesome. I always wanted to be Raja. The lion? Or the tiger? Yeah. The bear, oh my. Sorry. The bear, oh my. I was right there. I was like, we got to do it now. Lion, tiger, the bear, oh my.


15:44
 Yeah. But, like, okay. And also, aside from Jasmine being a smoke show and, like, independent sassy woman, there's no way Jafar isn't the queerest motherfucker on the face of the planet. Like, that is a gay sorcerer. Yep. Yep. Do you remember...


16:09
 There was, like, all this conspiracy about one of the buildings in the background of that movie being shaped like a penis. Yes. It was also in The Little Mermaid. Everyone was like, one of the towers is a penis. I was like, all right. But, like, animators get bored and buildings look like penises sometimes. So...


16:35
 maybe i'd be more worried about the palace legit looking like a boob like no i just remember like there was this huge hubbub and like all these parents were like like like they wouldn't let their kid watch aladdin because one of the buildings in the background looked like a penis i'm like seems like an easy excuse for people who didn't want their kids to watch middle eastern uh culture


17:01
 Okay, closet racist. So we don't have Disney Plus anymore, but when you would watch it on Disney Plus, there's a disclaimer at the beginning now. Yeah, I love that. A couple of them. Pocahontas, too, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, you know what? Is it your turn? Pocahontas is on my list. Nice. Yeah. I haven't watched that one. I haven't watched that in a long time. Oh, man.


17:30
 I remember watching that because it was yeah it was 1995 that it came out so I was like pre-teen and we had like rented it on pay-per-view so you could watch it like as many times as you wanted for 24 hours or whatever yeah and we had watched it as a family the night before and I was like


17:52
 i have feelings and i woke up really early the next morning and went downstairs and then re-watched it by myself and was like like just shocked at the things i was feeling in my body like the the level of like visceral hatred i had for john smith um right justified yeah right and


18:18
 And like her grandmother Willow was like very reminiscent of my nono. So I resonated with that. I always wanted a fucking raccoon friend. So Miko and I was like, yeah, give me a raccoon friend that rules. But I remember always wanting Pocahontas and her cute like girlfriend to


18:38
 Right? You know, who was, like, her lady friend. I was like, why aren't they together? All they do is talk about stupid boys, and there's that dumb boy from the tribe who can't string two words together. But... And I was like, and she's so strong. And she was, like, one of the first, I think, representations of, like, really strong-willed female representation, like, in an animation that I remember seeing. And being like, I...


19:06
 In my little brain, I don't know that I could differentiate between I want to be like that or I would like to be with someone like that. But I think it was like a queer brain combination of both. Yeah. But that one had like a real big, it like got the engine started. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to piggyback on something that you just said because I wrote it down.


19:32
 realizing that i was non-binary like do i want to do that person or do i want to be them yeah and that's huge the the best uh example of this is han solo and princess leia like yes do i want to be han solo and fuck princess leia


19:57
 other way around like i just want to be and do both yes yes so good oh wow that's awesome i could totally see that though right not not to mention just as you would rock a han solo cosplay


20:23
 Thank you. Like so hard. I'm not going to lie. Before we dropped our Amazon subscription. I mean, it still exists, but I have a cosplay list and it's like Han Solo. Yeah. Oh, man. If you could convince Avery to dress up as Princess Leia.


20:45
 I don't think it would take very much convincing. Yes. That would be the hottest shit ever. You know what? Also, I could totally put together a Han Solo costume without Amazon. Like, I just need some, like, blue jeans or, like, blue leggings and, like, some red stripe and then, like, a shirt and then a vest. And a vest. It's not even that difficult. Right. Yeah. Yeah.


21:14
 Oh, man. Well, I look forward to seeing that. Maybe for the next Comic-Con. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, I'm planning out all my cosplays for Comic-Con for New York this year. Because Colin and I are going for a week. We're going, like, for the whole time. Oh, shit. Yeah, because it's the first day of Comic-Con. It's his 13th birthday. So this is, like, his, like, epic...


21:42
 New York present. Oh, I love that. And it was awesome last year, but we didn't cosplay anything. And Nick and I just went for the day. And so this year, Colin and I are going for the week and then Nick is going to come up on Saturday for the day. But I was looking out. I was like, well, I'm going to cosplay Kim Possible because that's super easy. Kim Possible was almost on my list, but then I was like...


22:11
 yeah kim possible would be on my list for like uh though i have a movie on here for that too but like shows that like made me poly queer like curious do you know what i mean because i was like she should be with shego who's like her enemy and also wrong um


22:31
 That'd be a sick tryout I would watch. But yeah, anyway, I could go on and on and talk about cosplays that I want to do.


22:41
 but anyway okay um yeah just just last thing like i've read like uh the actress who played princess leia whose name escapes me at the moment um anyway carrie fisher thank you yeah um she was like super young and she was deaf she was like having some like health issues um and you know she was like basically famous overnight


23:08
 Which then led to, like, some mental health issues, I think. So, you know, with all the respect deserved of a person who has gone through that and has since passed, like, her and her slave outfit, like, confused the little Neva so much.


23:30
 I remember watching that movie and just being like, do I want her to put clothes on? I'm uncomfortable, but I don't know why. And also, why is it juxtaposed with the ugliest fucking Muppet I've ever seen that's like a fat slime monster? Why? Why? Why do they have to be in the same scene? Like...


23:58
 just whatever and i love that she gets a bit of that like rescues herself before yeah han and luke come in and i was like oh yeah badass we love you carrie fisher wherever you are space mom space mom space mom love it awesome okay do you want to do another movie yeah i think it's your turn i think it's your turn


24:25
 Oh, okay, cool. I think this one is pretty... It's also pretty, like, well-known for queer movies, but also because of who made it, but The Matrix. Okay, so that's one of Avery's honorable mentions. Yes. Also, it's a huge trans allegory, so I think for a lot of trans people, and it was also made by two trans women. Yep. So...


24:52
 I think they put their own soul into that work. And one, couldn't love Keanu Reeves anymore. He's a fucking national treasure. He's a gift humanity doesn't deserve. Love him. But Carrie Ann Moss in head-to-toe leather. Wow. Just...


25:16
 so i was like 14 when i saw that and there were things that happened to my body that i had to go and figure out alone you know i was like wow like i don't want to wear that but i want to touch it i don't think i watched the matrix until i was 16 or 17 and i think i just remember being like


25:44
 I don't know how I feel about this. I just feel very confused and I don't understand. I mean, I legit spent days.


26:00
 weeks trying to bend a spoon with my mind to see if we were in the matrix okay i probably did that too now that i'm now that i'm older i'm like i just want to be the oracle don't have an asthma attack


26:25
 I just remember like holding up spoons and just being like...


26:35
 concentrating so hard like i'm gonna bend it and then i'll prove that we're so stupid oh my gosh i love that i love that for us i mean honestly i love that for us fantastic but also another like


26:56
 big queer representation movie and did a lot for filmmaking because of its techniques so yeah a plus is all around plus keanu reeves so how could you go wrong exactly i know um all right so my turn road to el dorado shut up that's on my list too yes


27:19
 Okay, go. Like, Chell was, like, super sexy, but also, like, super, like, take charge, you know? Yeah. And I just wanted her and the two guys. Can't think of the character's name. Two queer bards. Right? Like, just all of you. Like, all of you. I have that on here as my, like, very Polly Awakening character.


27:48
 moment and I was like well because it also at the end of the movie it's left very ambiguous she doesn't really she doesn't like choose no they're just all together yeah and I was like yes that's a thing that's a thing you can do oh I was I don't I fucking love that movie


28:06
 Like these two fucking soft boy queer barns who just want to sing and steal and cause mischief. And this like bad bitch comes in. I'm like, that's what I want. That's what I want. I want all of that. That's pretty much the end of my list. Mostly because it was hard to think of things last night and yesterday.


28:33
 When I thought, oh shit, we're recording tomorrow. I need to think of something. I should probably jot down something. But I still have one honorable mention for Avery. I only have one more on my list. Oh, then that's perfect. Okay. So the one on my list is Mulan. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Which like, honest to God, like did a number on me. Yeah.


29:02
 um mostly because one this was like very like well queer representative right because she doesn't she doesn't do well being a girl she wasn't a she wasn't good at being a girl which i was also not


29:21
 oh my god no it was when will my reflection show like that whole song just like guts me still still to this day like literally thinking about it right now i'm just like i can't i can't i can't so many tears


29:38
 But that was a message I regularly received from my family unit was, you're bad at being a girl. I was too headstrong and too smart and too clumsy and to all of the things that were representative of Mulan. But I had a good relationship with my father. And when...


30:03
 Like, I think I like ugly cried through a lot of that movie because, you know, she like sacrifice sacrifices herself for him. But it's really just her becoming who she's always meant to be.


30:19
 Which is this like strong, badass, self-possessed woman who uses all of her skills to fucking save all of feudal China. So fucking thank Mulan, guys. And Shang is the hottest square-shaped bisexual because he was absolutely attracted to Mulan when Mulan was Ping. Yep. Yep.


30:39
 um just the like I resonated a lot with the like bringing honor to your family it was a huge like tenant in like immigrant families to do that I wasn't


30:53
 i wasn't able to do it in the traditional way because i wasn't girly enough so that like the idea that i could have done it in a way that still would have made my family proud resonated a lot with me um everything about that movie including the end where he's like i don't give a shit about these achievements he's like i just wanted my daughter back and now you're happy and that makes me happy yeah


31:19
 I was like, no, it's fine. It's cool. Everything's great. Jeez, that hits the, I just want my dad to be proud of me. Yeah. No, it's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's fine. Everything's great. Whatever.


31:37
 You know, a lot of the new, you know, speaking of just want our parents to accept us, a lot of the new Disney movies are doing that. Yeah. Like, I can't watch, like, Coco. I can't watch that without bawling at the end. I ugly sob every time. And, oh, my gosh, Encanto. Turning red. Yeah.


32:04
 Like, all of them. All of them are about, like, breaking generational trauma cycles and parents changing and accepting who their children really are. And I'm like, what? Where was this when we were younger? Well, that's the thing. The people making those are our age. Yeah. So right. So right. Oh, God. It hurts in such a specific way. Oh, my God. Right?


32:34
 Yeah. I find it interesting that a lot of ours were animated. Yeah. I know. Yeah, only two of mine weren't. We can inspect that deeper at a later date. I feel like that's like...


32:52
 I don't know, the age that you are like that weird in between, you know, like those preteen to early teen years or like when you start questioning and you're still watching kid movies that are animated versus adult movies, you know. So maybe that has something to do with it. It's just like.


33:13
 You know, whatever hits you in the right age group. That's true. All right. Last one. Avery's honorable mention. V for Vendetta. Oh, fuck yeah. That movie rules. Specifically, the prison scene with the story on the toilet paper. Yikes. Oh, my God. And the story of the two women and falling in love. Mm-hmm.


33:43
 That's such a powerful movie. Yep. We saw that movie in theaters in Montreal, Canada. Spring break of 2006. Wow. Were you with Avery? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes. Wow.


34:08
 That must have been crazy. And even in 2006, I was like, this is hitting a little close to home. And now 2025, I'm like, God damn it, motherfucker. Now I know why. Because actually my marriage is two women in love at the time. Well, that is just world shit, you know? World shit, yeah. Yeah.


34:30
 oh oh yes thriving in a fascist regime regime yeah i want to know a thing about that oh my god oh my god you know it's funny i have a list of honorable mentions here from the interwebs that i pulled and almost all of them are animated


34:54
 um interesting so not all but almost all treasure planet was an honorable mention wicked good yeah it's really good it's it's like disney was like okay we're gonna make a steampunk star wars space pirate animation okay it's so many things


35:18
 And it works. And the main character is, like, this, like, shitty. Is that a Disney? It is Disney, yeah. I guess I just assumed it was, like, probably DreamWorks or something because it didn't seem to fit in the Disney sphere. Right. It very much doesn't. But it's on Disney+. Oh, okay. There's that. Because I rewatched it this week. And I watched it with my kids. And both of them were like, this movie fucking rules. I was like, I know.


35:44
 But like, you know, the lead, the main character is like this like shitty older teen who's got like an undercut and an earring in one ear. And he's like, he's totally like the queerest coded kid I've ever seen. So that was one. And then Atlantis, the Lost City, Lost Empire, something like that. Okay. Which is another Disney movie.


36:12
 Which is also really great. I think maybe I've seen that one once. Yeah, also very queer-coded. You know, I wonder, okay, so if we think about this, people who are our age who are making Disney movies now about generational trauma, and then if we think about people who are our age when we were younger, they were making the queer-coded...


36:41
 Yeah, because they weren't allowed to be. Yep. Ooh, just got chills. Ooh, yeah, me too. I love it. I love it. And then one that my best friend mentioned, she said was The Craft, which is a witchy movie. Okay, so I sent you that video. You did? I was like, oh, yeah. You sent me this video, which I did not see until recently.


37:11
 but i can absolutely see how because we talked about that when we talked about movies and witchy movies yeah so yeah so the craft was was another one and i was like yeah okay i get that um it did it did not inspire feelings of queerness in me only because the main character is so batshit crazy that


37:41
 She just screams mentally unstable. And I get how that's like attractive for a lot of people, but it's like the opposite of everything I find attractive. And I was like, get me out of here. So while I like it as a witchy movie. Yeah. Yeah. It only inspires feelings of fleeing in me. And then another person mentioned Little Women. Run away. Run away. Run away.


38:10
 yeah but and i like little women okay so i don't think i've ever is that is that jane austen okay yeah so i've tried to read jane austen and i can't yeah the movies are better watch the movies okay listen i've read the books i've watched the movies the movies are really good


38:36
 Like, there was a Little Women made, like, when we were younger, which was great. And then they remade it, I don't know, maybe five-ish years ago. And it has Emma Watson in it. And it's got Florence Pugh and...


38:56
 Cerise something she's got a wicked Irish name that I can't pronounce and little Timmy Chalamet is in it yeah and it's really it's really good but the character of Jo she's like this like of the sisters she's like the very headstrong career oriented one who in a time nobody wanted to see a woman be career oriented she's like a writer and she becomes a writer for a newspaper and all this stuff


39:23
 um which so that just resonated with me on like a strong women level of not bowing to expectations but i like it yeah so i think that's that's all the ones i have it's all the ones i have i think we killed it i think we rocked it yeah guys please leave us comments messages anything what are the movies shows that made you go hmm


39:51
 What is this feeling? What is this feeling? I feel like that's a song somewhere. Probably. Yeah, it's gotta be. But yeah, you could email us. You could email us at hellofriend at lostgirlspodcast.com We are so official. We are so official. Yeah.


40:16
 Um, but anyway, so we have to draw a card. Do we want to say what's bringing us joy first? Sure. Let's do that. Okay. Uh, all right. So what's bringing me joy? Ooh, boy. Um, Ooh, I started, I don't know if it was joy. Well, okay. I started seeing a new therapist. Um,


40:40
 And I've seen her a couple times, and I like her a lot, and she is super badass and willing to call me out on my shit, which I really need and appreciate.


40:57
 Um, so that is actually like bringing me a lot of, a lot of joy. That's awesome. Yeah. Um, I think what's bringing me joy is Comic-Con is on, is the next weekend and I get a photo op with David Tennant dressed as my version of his character Crowley from Good Omens. Yes! Oh my god, I'm so excited! You should absolutely, while you're in your photo op, plug our podcast. Yes!


41:27
 hey by the way d10s um if you could listen to lost girls podcast that would be great find us on youtube we're big fans bye which i fully intend on doing with the whole critical role cast when i meet them in new york in october because i'm obsessed i love that


41:53
 So, yeah. I'm not sure what I'll have to look forward to after this weekend, though. It kind of scares me. How about all of our future scheduled podcasts with our upcoming guests? We have like three guests lined up. I think it's four. Is it four?


42:12
 I gotta check the scheduler but it's a lot and I'm pumped this season's shaping up to be pretty awesome what deck do you have Maria? okay so the deck I have for us today is actually one I've used before it's Jessica Rue's Woodland Wardens she does these like phenomenal illustrations and she pairs it's an oracle deck


42:40
 So she pairs an animal with a plant and like, you know, the symbols of whatever those two things mean together, which is like really awesome. Okay. You know what I just realized we forgot to do? We forgot to set our intention for the episode. Oh, no. We'll have to do that next time. Okay.


43:03
 Our intention is to set it next time. Our intention is to set it next time. Well, we came in so hot and so strong. We did. We knew what we were doing. We're like movies, gay movies. So Gay Awakening was our intention and we did it. So.


43:20
 I'm calling it a win. All right. Also, the card that popped out is the bear and cedar. And it's all about leadership. So it's a picture of a grizzly bear, which is an animal I very much resonate with because I am a bit of a bear. Mama bear. Yeah. A lot of a bear. Yeah.


43:41
 sick and fluffy and pissed yeah that's me and then the cedar tree so and it just it's really beautiful like her illustrations are phenomenal if you guys ever get a chance to look it up she also has a book


44:00
 about flowers and like their meanings and it's very cool so uh the bear and cedar calls us to be powerful but benevolent embodying the qualities of a great leader um if the spirit of the bear is guiding you to leadership opportunities and reminding you to rule with fairness and care how can i be a better better leader who can benefit from my knowledge and experience um


44:28
 So that's awesome. Maybe that's very auspicious for our upcoming podcast. Yes. Yeah. Love that. Love that for us. Yeah, me too. Me too. So there we go. Yeah, you guys can check us out anywhere podcasts are found. We are literally on every listening station. Platform. Platform. That's it. Station. Oh, boy.


44:56
 Showing everyone in my 40 years. In that one. So, but yes, we are on all the platforms. And on Instagram, which is also a platform. At Lost Girls Podcast NMR.


45:14
 Because that's Neva and Maria. Neva and Maria. That's us. We're the Neva. That's us. That's us. Sometimes I can't hold back. I can't keep the accent up, babe. I'm a Mario. It's me, Maria. Yeah. It's really bad. When I get tired and silly, it just comes out and I'm like...


45:42
 Well, I had fun. This was fun. This was fun. Thank you for listening, everybody. Yes. And tell your friends and trick them into listening as well. Yes, absolutely. Trick them into downloading. Leave it on for your pets. We don't care. It might make your pets gay.


46:00
 Yeah. Warning. Serious warning. It might make your pets gay. Bye, friend. Bye, friend.


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